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After watching a day 9 daily about mechanics a few weeks ago i've been thinking about how different people control their units and navigate the screen etc. so here are my questions:
When you box select what corner do you start at and what hand do you write with?
I start at the top left and finish at bottom right, i am left handed
Do you use camera hotkeys?
I use at least 3 camera hotkeys i have bound to f2-f4
Do you scroll the screen with the mouse a lot or use the mini-map more?
I use the mini map alot
What number hot-keys do you use up to?
I use 1-7
Do you ever click a button on the bottom right which you could use a hot-key for?
I never ever click those buttons its terrible practice
So please post how you guys use these mechanics and stuff answering the questions i did above :)
When you box select what corner do you start at and what hand do you write with?
I start at the top left and finish at bottom right, i am left handed
Do you use camera hotkeys?
I use at least 3 camera hotkeys i have bound to f2-f4
Do you scroll the screen with the mouse a lot or use the mini-map more?
I use the mini map alot
What number hot-keys do you use up to?
I use 1-7
Do you ever click a button on the bottom right which you could use a hot-key for?
I never ever click those buttons its terrible practice
So please post how you guys use these mechanics and stuff answering the questions i did above :)
May 04 2011 05:12
Q1: I either start at top left and finish at bottom right or top right and finish at bottom left. I am right handed.
Q2: No.
Q3: I use hotkeys mostly. For small adjustments I use the mouse, for a random location far away I left click the mini-map.
Q4: 1-0. 1-4 army, 5 main CC, 6 natural CC, 7 all barracks, 8 all factories, 9 all starports, 0 all engineering bays.
Q5: You mean "shortkey". And no I do not, that's effing newbie.
Q2: No.
Q3: I use hotkeys mostly. For small adjustments I use the mouse, for a random location far away I left click the mini-map.
Q4: 1-0. 1-4 army, 5 main CC, 6 natural CC, 7 all barracks, 8 all factories, 9 all starports, 0 all engineering bays.
Q5: You mean "shortkey". And no I do not, that's effing newbie.
When you box select what corner do you start at and what hand do you write with?
right top to bottom left always. right handed.
Do you use camera hotkeys?
nah just flick about like a noob. cbf relearning, doesnt seem much faster anyway?
Do you scroll the screen with the mouse a lot or use the mini-map more?
same as fight. hotkeys mostly, to check stuff far away click minimap, to go between nat and main flick the screen.
What number hot-keys do you use up to?
1-7
1-2 is army, 3 rax, 4 all CCs, 5 fact, 6 port, 7 all upgrade buildings (tech labs, eng bay etc etc).
Do you ever click a button on the bottom right which you could use a hot-key for?
i always click my +1 attack for bio, i have no idea why, i know the hotkey, i dont do it for +2 +3, i just feel like it needs to be clicked...
right top to bottom left always. right handed.
Do you use camera hotkeys?
nah just flick about like a noob. cbf relearning, doesnt seem much faster anyway?
Do you scroll the screen with the mouse a lot or use the mini-map more?
same as fight. hotkeys mostly, to check stuff far away click minimap, to go between nat and main flick the screen.
What number hot-keys do you use up to?
1-7
1-2 is army, 3 rax, 4 all CCs, 5 fact, 6 port, 7 all upgrade buildings (tech labs, eng bay etc etc).
Do you ever click a button on the bottom right which you could use a hot-key for?
i always click my +1 attack for bio, i have no idea why, i know the hotkey, i dont do it for +2 +3, i just feel like it needs to be clicked...
1) It goes both ways. I do top left to bottom right more often though.
2)Nope.
3) Im almost always using hotkeys to get around the map. Exception is when I see a red dot on the minimap, then I click it to see what it is.
4) I use them all.
5) Never have never will. I did in BW but thats because sometimes the hotkeys started with the name unit so it be easier for my nubcaek hands to click there with my mouse than so "S-O" for overlords. But all the hotkeys in this game are on the left side of the keyboard so no need to.
2)Nope.
3) Im almost always using hotkeys to get around the map. Exception is when I see a red dot on the minimap, then I click it to see what it is.
4) I use them all.
5) Never have never will. I did in BW but thats because sometimes the hotkeys started with the name unit so it be easier for my nubcaek hands to click there with my mouse than so "S-O" for overlords. But all the hotkeys in this game are on the left side of the keyboard so no need to.
top left to bottom right usually
sometimes, but I get lazy with camera keys
both scroll screen and use mini map. what fight said
Im wondering about middle button use.
1-7 is enough, seriously Id like to see someone use then all constantly...
sometimes click button, I get lazy
sometimes, but I get lazy with camera keys
both scroll screen and use mini map. what fight said
Im wondering about middle button use.
1-7 is enough, seriously Id like to see someone use then all constantly...
sometimes click button, I get lazy
When you box select what corner do you start at and what hand do you write with?
top right to bottom left. Sometimes I'll start dragging from the opposite direction of where I want to issue a command with my units. I'm right handed
Do you use camera hotkeys?
no.
Do you scroll the screen with the mouse a lot or use the mini-map more?
I use my hotkeys to navigate about 90% of the time. Sometimes if it's a far off location I'll use the minimap, or if I need to adjust the screen slightly I'll slam the cursor into the side of the screen.
What number hot-keys do you use up to?
1 and up for units, 4 and up for queens, 0 and down for hatches (oh wait I can have them all on 0 LOLOLOL)
Do you ever click a button on the bottom right which you could use a hot-key for?
When macroing I'll use my left hand to press the hotkey and use my right hand to select the units with the mouse. This is a habit from bw where I played every race and there simply wasn't a single keyboard setup that worked for all the races, so I would either select the structures with the mouse and press the unit hotkeys or I would go through the structures using my hotkeys while clicking the portraits, depending on what was most effecient at the time.
For spells I always used hotkeys, except for scan because S and 0 are really far apart so I found it easier to just click the portrait. In SC2 I still haven't memorized all the keys so I still find myself using the mouse to cast spells.
top right to bottom left. Sometimes I'll start dragging from the opposite direction of where I want to issue a command with my units. I'm right handed
Do you use camera hotkeys?
no.
Do you scroll the screen with the mouse a lot or use the mini-map more?
I use my hotkeys to navigate about 90% of the time. Sometimes if it's a far off location I'll use the minimap, or if I need to adjust the screen slightly I'll slam the cursor into the side of the screen.
What number hot-keys do you use up to?
1 and up for units, 4 and up for queens, 0 and down for hatches (oh wait I can have them all on 0 LOLOLOL)
Do you ever click a button on the bottom right which you could use a hot-key for?
When macroing I'll use my left hand to press the hotkey and use my right hand to select the units with the mouse. This is a habit from bw where I played every race and there simply wasn't a single keyboard setup that worked for all the races, so I would either select the structures with the mouse and press the unit hotkeys or I would go through the structures using my hotkeys while clicking the portraits, depending on what was most effecient at the time.
For spells I always used hotkeys, except for scan because S and 0 are really far apart so I found it easier to just click the portrait. In SC2 I still haven't memorized all the keys so I still find myself using the mouse to cast spells.
When you box select what corner do you start at and what hand do you write with?
Top right bottom left, slice mostl goes bottom right top left, as its generally a very small thin line and trails up when I do it fast
Do you use camera hotkeys?
F1-F3, but at the moment, very rarely, I changed my mechanics and hotkeys again, so this is gonna be worked back in later.
Do you scroll the screen with the mouse a lot or use the mini-map more?
Minimap and double control group taps mostly, occassional scroll.
What number hot-keys do you use up to?
1-6. New setup that I am still working on will be 1-6 and 9&0 for research (so its a deliberate decision).
Do you ever click a button on the bottom right which you could use a hot-key for?
Nah man, im too pro
Top right bottom left, slice mostl goes bottom right top left, as its generally a very small thin line and trails up when I do it fast
Do you use camera hotkeys?
F1-F3, but at the moment, very rarely, I changed my mechanics and hotkeys again, so this is gonna be worked back in later.
Do you scroll the screen with the mouse a lot or use the mini-map more?
Minimap and double control group taps mostly, occassional scroll.
What number hot-keys do you use up to?
1-6. New setup that I am still working on will be 1-6 and 9&0 for research (so its a deliberate decision).
Do you ever click a button on the bottom right which you could use a hot-key for?
Nah man, im too pro
Its interesting to see how people are box selecting :). Beater has some interesting ways of macroing. I think some of you guys should get on camera hotkeys, i use mine alot of just transferring workers.
Cameras are really good for rally point selection as well as queuing harass or watching drops. I did that in BW for drops mainly, and it infinitely increased my ability to control drops, as well as made me watch minimap
hmm i just bind my medivacs im dropping to army hotkeys and select them that way. i dont know if i could change many of my mechanics now, seems hard to relearn.
When you box select what corner do you start at and what hand do you write with?
I usually start from top right to bottom left and sometimes top left to bottom right. I am right handed
Do you use camera hotkeys?
I never knew camera hotkeys even existed lol
Do you scroll the screen with the mouse a lot or use the mini-map more?
generally use minimap but scrolls to adjust screen
What number hot-keys do you use up to?
only 1-4
Do you ever click a button on the bottom right which you could use a hot-key for?
I click on bottom right alot =D
I usually start from top right to bottom left and sometimes top left to bottom right. I am right handed
Do you use camera hotkeys?
I never knew camera hotkeys even existed lol
Do you scroll the screen with the mouse a lot or use the mini-map more?
generally use minimap but scrolls to adjust screen
What number hot-keys do you use up to?
only 1-4
Do you ever click a button on the bottom right which you could use a hot-key for?
I click on bottom right alot =D
When you box select what corner do you start at and what hand do you write with?
Top left to bottom right, always. I'm right handed.
Do you use camera hotkeys?
Wtf? lol
Do you scroll the screen with the mouse a lot or use the mini-map more?
Mini-map unless I'm moving around the base i guess.
What number hot-keys do you use up to?
1-9 (except 8). 1-3 for units, 4 CC, 5 rax, 6 fact, 7 sp, 9 upgrades. Sometimes I'll use 0 for supply depots in team games (just for stopping run bys while I'm on the other side of the map).
Do you ever click a button on the bottom right which you could use a hot-key for?
Only if I've got a cheeseburger or a phone in my hand.
Top left to bottom right, always. I'm right handed.
Do you use camera hotkeys?
Wtf? lol
Do you scroll the screen with the mouse a lot or use the mini-map more?
Mini-map unless I'm moving around the base i guess.
What number hot-keys do you use up to?
1-9 (except 8). 1-3 for units, 4 CC, 5 rax, 6 fact, 7 sp, 9 upgrades. Sometimes I'll use 0 for supply depots in team games (just for stopping run bys while I'm on the other side of the map).
Do you ever click a button on the bottom right which you could use a hot-key for?
Only if I've got a cheeseburger or a phone in my hand.
When you box select what corner do you start at and what hand do you write with?
Top left to bottom right, always. I'm right handed.
Do you use camera hotkeys?
Nope
Do you scroll the screen with the mouse a lot or use the mini-map more?
Bit of both.
What number hot-keys do you use up to?
1-2 units 3 hatches 4 5 6 injects, i really need to get at least 3 army hotkeys, maybe make q or something one, im so used to hatches on 3 now. Harass stuff usually doesnt get a key.
Do you ever click a button on the bottom right which you could use a hot-key for?
All the time, never bothered learning upgrade hotkeys, and it fucks me all the time when i misclick it. Make 10 corruptors, oh wait you didnt get a hive yet so theyre all useless.
Top left to bottom right, always. I'm right handed.
Do you use camera hotkeys?
Nope
Do you scroll the screen with the mouse a lot or use the mini-map more?
Bit of both.
What number hot-keys do you use up to?
1-2 units 3 hatches 4 5 6 injects, i really need to get at least 3 army hotkeys, maybe make q or something one, im so used to hatches on 3 now. Harass stuff usually doesnt get a key.
Do you ever click a button on the bottom right which you could use a hot-key for?
All the time, never bothered learning upgrade hotkeys, and it fucks me all the time when i misclick it. Make 10 corruptors, oh wait you didnt get a hive yet so theyre all useless.
Top left to bottom right, I am left handed in writing but not a left-sided person per seVeom wrote:
When you box select what corner do you start at and what hand do you write with?
I relied heavily on them in BW but I can't get them to bind at all in SC2 for some reason :S just doesn't work.Veom wrote:
Do you use camera hotkeys?
Mini-map a lot yes but if I'm microing a battle I always move screen around with the mouse for small adjustments (which is the right time to do it btw)Veom wrote:
Do you scroll the screen with the mouse a lot or use the mini-map more?
1,2,3,6,7,9,0Veom wrote:
What number hot-keys do you use up to?
Wtf? No.Veom wrote:
Do you ever click a button on the bottom right which you could use a hot-key for?
What Hotkey setting is the best? Standard or grid? I have standard but sometimes I forget hotkeys so I have the little thing in the box which tells you what letter to press!
When you box select what corner do you start at and what hand do you write with?
Top left -> bot right, am Right handed. I practice all directions of boxing in the first minute of the game, just boxing scvs, so that if its easier (in terms of the position of my mouse on the screen and my units) to say box from bot left -> top right, then i can do so.
Do you use camera hotkeys?
Trying to start using F1-F3 for mining bases.
Do you scroll the screen with the mouse a lot or use the mini-map more?
Around my base and directing my army/microing I will scroll, mini-map i use mainly for long distances or between mining bases (when i forget my camera hotkeys).
What number hot-keys do you use up to?
Terran: 1-4, 1CCs, 2Production, 3Units, 4Units/upgrades
Protoss: 1-3, 1Nexus, 2Production, 3Units
Zerg: 1-6, 1All Hatch, 2Extra queens/Units, 3Units, 4Main base queen, 5expo queen, 6 etc.. for all my mining bases.
Do you ever click a button on the bottom right which you could use a hot-key for?
Yes, but only for strange upgrades like the PF/Turret/AutoTurret/PDD range upgrade.
Top left -> bot right, am Right handed. I practice all directions of boxing in the first minute of the game, just boxing scvs, so that if its easier (in terms of the position of my mouse on the screen and my units) to say box from bot left -> top right, then i can do so.
Do you use camera hotkeys?
Trying to start using F1-F3 for mining bases.
Do you scroll the screen with the mouse a lot or use the mini-map more?
Around my base and directing my army/microing I will scroll, mini-map i use mainly for long distances or between mining bases (when i forget my camera hotkeys).
What number hot-keys do you use up to?
Terran: 1-4, 1CCs, 2Production, 3Units, 4Units/upgrades
Protoss: 1-3, 1Nexus, 2Production, 3Units
Zerg: 1-6, 1All Hatch, 2Extra queens/Units, 3Units, 4Main base queen, 5expo queen, 6 etc.. for all my mining bases.
Do you ever click a button on the bottom right which you could use a hot-key for?
Yes, but only for strange upgrades like the PF/Turret/AutoTurret/PDD range upgrade.
(cant be bothered quoting questions =P), i have a pretty standard zerg hotkey setup... mastering my hotkeys was the 1st thing i did when i installed sc2...
1-3 = unit groups
4 = all hatches
5-0 = queens
thats all i need to navigate, otherwise i just click on the minimap. and i dont know how to use camera keys on my laptop. if some1 could let me know how to do that, that would be nice :D
1-3 = unit groups
4 = all hatches
5-0 = queens
thats all i need to navigate, otherwise i just click on the minimap. and i dont know how to use camera keys on my laptop. if some1 could let me know how to do that, that would be nice :D
well, if u play random, grid would be much better, if u sticking with a race, just use standard, but really its up 2 u...HaVoC wrote:
What Hotkey setting is the best? Standard or grid? I have standard but sometimes I forget hotkeys so I have the little thing in the box which tells you what letter to press!
Edit: woops -_-
oh and i box randomly, i prefer clicking =P which mr.day9 says is better :D
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